I have adapted Dan Licata’s Agda proof that the higher homotopy groups are abelian to Coq, and I have added a link to the code on the code page of this blog.

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Nice! It looks simpler than I expected. I’m intrigued by your comment in the source that proving

`adjust_l`

(and, I presume,`adjust_r`

) by`induction`

didn’t give a term that was explicit enough. I’ve had a similar experience with the`induction`

proofs of`equiv_inv`

,`equiv_inv_is_section`

, and`equiv_inv_is_retraction`

, but I thought that maybe I was doing something wrong. It’s too bad if the convenient induction tactic has a tendency to produce proofs that aren’t good enough for further use. Are the proofs “really” different, or is Coq just not able to figure out that they’re the same?I also have to repeat my suggestion that we say rather than when that’s what we really mean. (-:

Thanks, Mike.

In fact, I was just able to prove the two proofs (i.e. paths) are homotopic to one another; see the code below.

What’s going on is that when it comes to Omega^2, the two endpoints of a path p are the same; so induction over p no longer works, and it become impossible to simplify j terms over paths. So one needs a description of the homotopy that doesn’t require unpacking a j-term.

The fact that “proofs” are far from irrelevant here — e.g. they can describe paths that one wants to reason about — makes me uneasy. The particularities of a proof can have an effect on future developments in ways that I still don’t fully understand. For example, Dan pointed out to me that his code only needs one “adjustment” (whereas I need adjust_l and adjust_r) because he used a different definition of concatenation/transitivity than Andrej did. Roughly, Andrej (proved transitivity “trans p q”) / (defined concatenation “p @ q”) by contracting both p and q, which has the effect that “id_path x @ idpath_x” is definitionally equal to “idpath x”. But if you prove it instead by contracting only the first, say, then you get the more useful property that “id_path x @ p” is definitionally equal to “p”. That better definition would have made my code a bit shorter.

Welcome to the wonderful world of proof relevance.

*****

Lemma adjust_l {A} {x y : A} {p q : x ~~> y} (R : p ~~> q) :

idpath x @ p ~~> idpath x @ q.

Proof. exact (idpath_left_unit p @ R @ !(idpath_left_unit q)). Defined.

(* induction R doesn’t given a term that is explicit enough. *)

Lemma adjust_l2 {A} {x y : A} {p q : x ~~> y} (R : p ~~> q) :

idpath x @ p ~~> idpath x @ q.

Proof. induction R. apply idpath. Defined.

Lemma test {A} {x y : A} {p q : x ~~> y} (R : p ~~> q) :

adjust_l R ~~> adjust_l2 R.

Proof.

induction R; induction x0.

path_via (idpath_left_unit (idpath x) @ idpath (idpath x)).

Qed.

Fascinating! It doesn’t really bother me too much that these “proofs” are “relevant”, because as a homotopy theorist, I don’t call these things “proofs of theorems” but rather “constructions of paths.” And “obviously” when you construct a path, it can matter which path you construct.

`(-:`

But it does seem a little unfortunate that we have to pay attention to details like this.It seems to me that the basic status of proof-irrelevance — the idea that certain types are in some sense “propositions”, and for them one should have proof-irrelevance — hasn’t changed; we’ve simply jettisoned the principle that equality should always be such a proposition.

Indeed, arguably we haven’t even lost that much! It’s quite consistent that there’s a “π_{-1}” construction, reflecting types into homotopy-propositions, which are (at least propositionally) proof-irrelevant; and then this applied to the identity type gives a homotopy-proposition representing equality — so, a proof-irrelevant equality. What this lacks compared to full identity types is that one can only eliminate out of it into other homotopy-propositions, not into arbitrary types.